DEMONS

I'm sure most of you have different opinions on demons, heard different stories and so on maybe even encountered on an occasion. The reason of this new thread is to share my knowledge of demonology based on my studying and experience.

First of all there are two ways you can encounter demons... but out of these two ways only one is possible: physical form (possession) . You will never be able to make contact with a demon in any other form because it's not likely that there are ways to interact (speaking, listening, different planes different frequencies).
When a person is possessed it will have a bigger physical strength and speed but also it will tend to evaluate everything and speak more than act, inflict fear or try to convert or to manipulate, so it is on rare occasions that you may enter a physical conflict,fight, with a demon.

King Solomon's Demons
Everyone probably heard of the legends and myth regarding this historical figure so i'm not gonna write everything down about him, only the essentials.
It was said that he conjured spirits to help him gain knowledge and stuff like that. The less known legend found even in an old version of the first testament written though in latin, it's a reference of a holy man "on a journey to the land of souls and back, he will come changed and also change everything else". What supposedly happened was that he conjured something beyond his control and with it came other beings and a door was left open for some things that should not be here to pass into this realm,
first reference to demons.
Later on demons are given names in the bible and in other holy texts and also a classification by ranks (which i do not approve of in many cases).

short summary based on what i know:
Lucifer
Memmnon (Lucifer's son)
Mephistopheles(general of hell's army)
Sammael
Asmodeus
Azazel
Lilith
these are the ones with most historical, biblical and any other references

Exorcisms
Many say that there are only a few priests that can perform an accurate exorcism and those that are not given the holy gift cannot do so. Wrong.
Almost anyone who is trained and learns the proper texts can perform an exorcism, the trick is to know what kind of demon you are facing, how powerful he/she is, what is his purpose, goals and weaknesses.

I have witnessed an exorcism that went wrong, very wrong in my country, a woman said to be possessed for some time and she went demon eyed and crazy in the front of a church on a holy day. A priest tried to say some prayers and act like he knew what he was doing but... not everything is taught in "priest high school". The woman was pulling 3 men towards her and pushing them back.. showing huge strength until she mumbled something not in our language for sure and just dropped dead( her age was 62).

Now i'll be updating this thread when i will see fit to do so and for requests that you might have, but for those interested in more you can contact me with a private message if you have questions that you don't want to make public.

My background is in 5 years of demonology, started at age 14, my mentor was a former Vatican priest(from which i had access to several not published books and historical documents for a short time) a sort of distant relative of my family, and numerous investigations for two years all across country in collaboration with both orthodox and catholic churches, and 2 months of correspondence with Lorraine Warren well known demonologist and investigator at the famous Amytiville haunting.(if some of you wonder why i tend to speak of myself as a person who knows these things)

I look forward to your replies.

im not saying your wrong or anything like you said people learn the same concept but differnt things.... but lucifer isnt a demon he is actually an angel satan is his demon name but again thats what i was told so correct me if im wrong lol

Its based on what the OP knows mate. Not saying he is right or wrong just throwing his view on what he knows about demons.

My question is (how,or how come) How does a demon become? Or what does it become out of. Why have we not encountered new demons? Or have we? Maybe we weren't aware of such an event. Since the ones we know of were created during, and prior to the embrace of man and woman.

about Lucifer it's true that he was the first fallen angel so you could say that he is still angel but if you consider or if you associate angels with Good than you can't still call Lucifer an angel that is why most cultures adopted the name of Satan.
And another thing.. this i'm not sure yet haven't read too much on this thing... any of you know what other angels fell ? after lucifer or at the same time? any mentions? any specific names or symbols associated with them?

(06-12-2009 08:51 AM)kraik Wrote:  My question is (how,or how come) How does a demon become? Or what does it become out of. Why have we not encountered new demons? Or have we? Maybe we weren't aware of such an event. Since the ones we know of were created during, and prior to the embrace of man and woman.

not easy to answer this one so i'll try making it simple . A demon is the opposite of an angel. Angels were created by God supposedly so it is believed that demons were created by lucifer or that some of them are even his offsprings, like Jesus to God, there is Memmnon to Lucifer. Of course no one knows if there is in fact reproduction like in the human race or animal reign because no one knows the true nature of a demon. could they be physical beings like us or just spiritual who knows, or maybe 50-50.
Only true fact is that demons posses humans in order to do all sorts of stuff for them so probably they need a body in order to influence our lives on our realm.
About encountering demons... honestly i do believe not all of them begin to drive their "hosts" mad and all movie-like stuff and some of them have another purpose of being here than just going on a killing spree that's why earth is referred to as the purgatory(hope u didn't think the purgatory was another place) same realm different plane or dimension some references are made in St.Jones Revelations or in the writings of Luke.
So it very possible that when you go to work and you shake hands with someone he could be a demon and u just didn't know, or you could wake up and at the newspaper stand the old man selling papers there his whole life is recently occupied by a demon, hard way of knowing where and when, but the how is simple .

BTw demons are mentioned as actual beings or entities after Lucifers fall, and in ancient greek after Hades received the Inferno as a realm to rule upon.

And what a lovely place hell is. I mean the weather is always nice stays warm year round can't complain, Look at it this way it doesn't snow or rain there. > _ >

(06-14-2009 09:48 AM)Darklight Wrote:  And what a lovely place hell is. I mean the weather is always nice stays warm year round can't complain, Look at it this way it doesn't snow or rain there. > _ >

) yeah when you come to think about it it does sound better than our weather, but actually all these facts are just speculations of hell, nowhere is it written that hell is actually fire and tar pits and stuff like that cos .. don't think there is anyone to have been to hell and back... yet

Well I have to say this and you can call me crazy or a nut, I really don't care. I'm part demon. My astral mother was kidnapped and raped by a demon. No, I was not raised as a demon in the astrals so I am not real familiar with demons. And I have met Lucifer before and I did not sense any evil or darkness from him. Where I met him was a place of fire and brimstone but I think it was just a small part of his domain. Ok, I'm ready to be called crazy now .

That sounds quite interesting hanna. Glad you can share that. I wouldn't call ya crazy or anything.

I come from a very spiritiual family that has always kept secrets to maybe protect me IDK. As a child my aunt was staying with me. I walked in her room to ask her a question and saw her laying on her bed in what looked like an electric shock. I would have swore she was being electricuted until she was picked up off the bed and slammed into the walls after seeing this I ran out of her room in fear and did not return. I often saw things as a child and my first instinct was always to walk away calmly or run like hell. My mom who lives in church came home about 10min later I told her what I saw and she went in the room and started praying with my aunt. They both came out like nothing happened. When I asked my mother what was going in on she told me my aunt was shocked by electricity. They always made up excuses for the things I saw happen but their faces would always verify with me. My question is was this a demon?

-Messenja